User talk:Thunderforge

Welcome

Hello Thunderforge! Welcome to the wiki. I hope you enjoy using the site and find the information on it useful. If you decide you want to help improve any of our pages, we're always welcoming to new editors so feel free. You might want to look at our Getting Started page for some tips on how to begin, then play in our Sandbox for a while to practice. If you need any help or advice, please ask me or one of our mentors. Enjoy! --SerCenKing ^Talk 02:46, 21 May 2009 (EDT)

Online:Online

That information already exists at Main Page. When ESO is released, Main Page gets moved to Online and Online gets moved to Online:About. This is how we have done it for every previous game, so there is no need to add that info to the Online page. Jeancey (talk) 05:36, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

I had no idea that Online:Online existed because there aren't any mainspace links to it (you can tell with the "What Links Here" tool). Why is this? If this is the way that we are going to do things, then we really ought to have some link to that page so that people know it exists and they don't make the same edit I did thinking the information is missing. -Thunderforge (talk) 05:46, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

Where would you link it from? The reason we do this is because prior to a game's release, people care about things like how the game is set up, the release date, the development, etc, rather than actual game information. All that sort of information is gathered on the Online:Online page now, but eventually will go to the Online:About page. We put the information that is most useful to people right now on the Online:Online page. Jeancey (talk) 05:52, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

The Elder Scrolls Online is unique compared to the other games in that the game has been "released" in the form of continually growing public betas before the final shipping date. This weekend just had the largest beta with an enormous amount of invites going out. Indeed, we even had some trading of "bring a friend" beta keys on UESP. Those who are playing the beta do care about the information that is currently on Online:Main Page and are finding Online:Online in its current form to be inadequate ( sure did). While the content is certainly going to change, it seems to me like we ought to start building up the site with the information that is available to those playing the beta. As for where I'd put the link to the main page, probably in the lead of Online:Online. -Thunderforge (talk) 05:58, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

We have been growing the site, though we started with books because that's what we could add without access to the servers. Jeancey (talk) 06:09, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

Also, we don't need a carbon copy of the Skyrim pages. We don't really need those pages yet. Content is more important than copying skyrim pages that may or may not be useful in any way. There are no where near enough activities in ESO to need their own page, for instance. Jeancey (talk) 09:08, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

I've been adding the basics to be expanded later, and copying from the Skyrim pages is a good place to start (just like how many of the Skyrim pages were copied from the Oblivion pages). Regarding the Activities page, the main reason I created that was to have a place for Fishing. I agree that there aren't many activities of similar nature on that scale unfortunately and perhaps an "Activities" page wouldn't belong. Would there be another place that a page on that activity would belong? Or could it be directly linked to Online:Main Page? -Thunderforge (talk) 09:11, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

(←) Simply copying Skyrim pages is wrong, please adapt them to ESO usage without slapping verification tags all over them. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 13:43, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

They don't necessarily need a hub page. A fishing page would be fine, and a Activities category. Doesn't need to be linked from the main page. Jeancey (talk) 15:05, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

If a fishing page isn't linked from the main page, where should it be linked from? It shouldn't be an orphaned page of course. -Thunderforge (talk) 15:50, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

Wouldn't be orphaned. Would be linked from the Lure items page, the Fish items page, things like that. Jeancey (talk) 16:08, 3 March 2014 (GMT)

Exploration Achievements page

I am confused, the new links on the Exploration Achievements page are to new achievements pages rather than to the solution I thought you were advocating: links to an achievements section on major page. For instance, Online:Skullbreaker the Sea Troll (achievement) rather than Online:Skullbreaker the Sea Troll#Achievements --Swordmage (talk) 09:35, 26 March 2014 (GMT)

If we do what Skyrim did, Online:Skullbreaker the Sea Troll (achievement) would be a redirect page that points to Online:Skullbreaker the Sea Troll#Achievements. However, I'd be okay with directly linking to the subsection instead and cutting out the redirect. -Thunderforge (talk) 17:59, 26 March 2014 (GMT)