UESPWiki:Reference Desk/2011

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Shadowmere Speed Damaged God Help Me!

(moved from UESPWiki:Community Portal#Shadowmere Speed Damaged God Help Me!)

Seriously anyone know how to cast restore speed on other? anyway shape or form? someway preferably not involving a high magic skill. But I'll take anything! ♫ÐAÝÑè♫ 07:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried making it at a spell alter? I doubt their is already a restore speed on other spell already in-game so you'll have to make it yourself. You did already buy the base spell right? Any restore attribute spell will do for a base. Then all you need is access to the Arcane University, head to the Praxographical Center, go to the spell alter in there. Click on restore attribute, choose speed, set spell target to touch or range, and then set magnitude. That's it. Alpha Kenny Buddy 08:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks heaps man, stand-by; I'll let you know. ♫ÐAÝÑè♫ 08:16, 4 January 2011 (UTC) 2 more questions actually: 1) How do I gain access to the Arcane University (1.5 Where's the "Praxographical Center (2 Where can I buy the base spell ♫ÐAÝÑè♫ 08:23, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

You need to complete all the recommendation quests for the Mages Guild. rpeh •T•C•E• 14:29, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks man, I've started them. Sorry for putting the question in the wrong spot too. ♫ÐAÝÑè♫ 02:02, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Randomly Removed From The Blades

I am just finished the quest Blood of the Divines and I went back to the Cloud Ruler Temple and gave the armour to Martin but I went to get some armour from the wing and it showed that I was "stealing" blades helmet!I looked on my list of factions and The Blades wasn't list. I joined the blades a while ago and after looking at your website about the blades faction I tried to see if maybe it was because I have a weak deposition to Jaufre but it doesnt even show an option to increase it and it says nothing about "join the blades" again in the conversion list! Please help thank you.

When you save martin and go to cloud ruler temple after there speech you will be asked if you want to join the blades if you do not click yes than anything you take from cloud ruler will be stolen. Btw save often i cant tell you how many times ive ran into a glitch or did something stupid and lost my game-Turganne

Oblivion - multi enchantments on armor

I've looked all through the discussion and forums, but I can't seem to find anything on how to make enchanted armor with more than one enchantment. Have I missed it somewhere? I'm playing GOTY on PS3 if that makes any difference. AlchemicAngel25 08:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Jan 22, 2011

It is not possible to enchant armor or other worn items with more than one effect, though you can find equipment with multiple effects. On the other hand, you can enchant weapons with multiple effects. --Wizy (Talk/Contribs) 08:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, that definitely helps. Seems kinda weird though that you can find clothing and armor with multiple effects but it's never in the right combination for the character I play. — Unsigned comment by AlchemicAngel25 (talk • contribs) at 19:09 on 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Hm... I'll test it out on some armor. Let's see how it goes. Raeukin 18:05, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Quests doesnt start

Hi, im new on this site and i come from Slovakia so please excuse me my accidental bad english.... I have a problem with quests in Oblivion.. For example if I visit a deadric shrine and talk to the essential person there i get the instructions, the offering list, bud the quest doesnt appear in the list of active quest or in the list where i can choose a quest to do, if i bring the resources and make an offering, the god talks to me, but again.. the quest doesnt start, there is nothing wrote in the inventory,no new quest or the refreshment of a quest, no map marker.. If i do all the quest by memory and get back to the shrine i get the reward and the quest appears somewhere in the middle of the completed quests list... sometimes not even that... The malfuncion is in other quests too, i cant start any normal quest. Thank you very much for your answers and spent time. Fellbiestrider — Unsigned comment by 195.91.56.81 (talk) on 30 January 2011

Please could you tell us exactly which quest you're having trouble with, and what the last quest you did get was? rpeh •T•C•E• 17:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

How do I challenge the Grand Champion of the Arena?

Everything was easy, step by step and with plenty of direction, to become the blue team champion. However, there is nothing I can find to challenge the grand champion. No question posed by the Arena master or matron deal with this. The door to the Red Room is closed. The Grand Champion is not to be found to ask directly. If I go to the other side, all I can do is bet. There has to be a prompt, a place, an action, or something, that will allow me to make this challenge. Thank you, Lomar — Unsigned comment by 216.103.187.2 (talk) at 16:47 on February 16, 2011

You must discuss Challenge the Grand Champion with the Battle Matron. Then you have to challenge him yourself, in person. Then you must go back and inform her about it. Then the gate will open and he will be moved to the Arena. If this doesn't happen it was glitched somehow. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 22:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC) edited

It's been a while since I did it, but I believe you have to talk to Agronak himself at some point too. rpeh •T•C•E• 22:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much. That makes sense. But...where do I find this Agronak? I do not recall seeing anything about where he would be. I guess I will look around, but you cannot ask about anyone unless that name appears in your "speak/question" box, and I have never seen his name there. At any rate, thank you for the prompt replies. Lomar — Unsigned comment by 216.103.187.2 (talk) at 16:47 on February 17, 2011

Agronak gro-Malog. He should be in the Bloodworks too, practicing. rpeh •T•C•E• 01:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Deleting Topics

I made a topic on the forums and I forgot to check if it was in another thread, and it was. I would like to know if I am able to delete my own published topics or if the staff have to do it on their own.

Cannot register on forums

I'm new here... I created my UESPWiki username with no problem. Now I'm trying to register on the UESP forums, and I'm faced with an impass.

Yes, I was born before Today 1998. I fill in my information (my name and password length both meet the required criteria) I enter my email twice, and enter the confirmation code. Click submit

The page refreshes and the red message at the top states, "The forum was invalid. / The code was incorrect."

I've tried it a thousand times; I even emailed the Board (the link provided should you be "visually impaired or otherwise having trouble") a week ago. Still no reply

So, I figured I'd post my inquiry here.

All the info I'm entering is correct; What's the matter? Is/has anyone been faced with these problems before?

(The Lost 03:07, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Quest: "A Brush With Death" Missing Painter Rythe Lysandas

Hey Guys,

I have been playing oblivion for like 2 years and I have been using the same character. My question is about the mission, "A Brush with Death". Basically, insstead of having the most common bug described, where a character cannot leave the painting, I can't even enter the painting. I am still seeing the early message in my current quests box that tells me to seek out Tivela Lyrhandas; "...his wife Tivela has been frantically searching for him. Perhaps I should visit their home here in Cheydinhal to see if I can assist with the search". When I travel to Cheydinhal with the quest active, a green arrow appears on my map at the Lythandas house door. But when I enter, Tivela is nowhere to be found and there is a red arrow at the door telling me to go outside. I've searched all over the city and cannot find her. Essentially, I have been playing this game for too long to restart. I am getting ready for the fifth title. I just want to know if anyone else has had this problem and has any solutions. If the only option is to restart then I won't bother with finishing this mission, I invested too much time already. Thanks.

graphics

ok should i get this game on pc or 360 or ps3??? if the pc's graphics are way better ima build a high end pc myself can some1 suggest? is playing on pc annoying? does it freeze alot? P90 user 11:16, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

The graphics are basically the same on all platforms, although Todd Howard has stated that PC textures are usually more detailed. The PC version lets you use the console and add other mods, so it would always be my first choice. rpeh •T•C•E• 11:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

A note graphics wise. If you have a low- or even mid-range graphics card in your PC, you may have problems running Oblivion in a high detail mode. I have 3 GB RAM and a 2.9 GHz processor, but because of my lower graphics card I run Oblivion in Low Graphics, as well as adjusted some visual options to maximize performance. But the ability to use mods, the Construction Set, and the console is great. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 13:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

sry im talking about skyrim i have oblvion on 360 and its graphics suck compared to pc reviews ive seen. environment over 10 meters are unrendered. P90 user 15:55, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

We would have no idea whether Skyrim's graphics are better on one or the other, or if it freezes, since the game does not exist yet. --Brf 16:05, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

In Shivering Isles the guards dont attack the gate keeper in the bigging.

I cant fig out why when i walk up to the bunch of guards by the gate keeper they dont attack him. i tried to talk to them or just attack the keeper to provoke him to go for them but no luck. I know they have to get killed by him to keep moving forward in the quest but he's not doing squat. Any ideas ? This is on 360 fyi. Thanks.

Read this. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 03:09, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Tagline changing

I noticed when I was logged out the tagline said The UESPWiki - Your source for The Elder Scrolls since 1995 but when I logged in it just says From UESPWiki. Is there a reason for this? I'm just curious. mxk101^Talk 21:48, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm only seeing the long version, signed in or out...By the way, I assume you mean the line at the top right of each page? Took me a bit to realize what you meant. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 23:11, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that was what I was referring to. Does everybody else have the longer version when logged in? mxk101^Talk 14:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Heretic in Imperial City???

moved from UESPWiki:Community Portal#Heretic in Imperial City??? by Brf, 25 April 2011

This is an In-Game question, mainly for those who have played The Shivering Isles. those who have may remember the Heretics and Zealots. When I was playing this morning BACK in Cyrodiil in Imperial City, I encountered a Heretic attacking the propietor of the Tiber Septim Inn. Is this a glitch? I don't think you can encounter SI NPCs in Cyrodill normally.

Thanks for answers!

Savlen Maros 00:22, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

This is a known phenomenon. It's because the tiber septim is a sort of dumping ground for lost characters. The mechanics behind this however are not clearly documented, this is an issue I am interested in. The Heretic Watchman is a common occurence and it says on the heretic watchman "page" they are associated with breakneck camp. I'm trying to find a way to trigger this with the escorts. Datacaust 00:31, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Enchantable Items that can be Reverse-Pickpocketed

I've heard many stoies about people reverse pickpoketing items enchantd with effects such as constant fire damage. I've nver come across a weightless, equipalbe item. If anyone has come across one post it here with its location. Thanks

Savlen Maros 23:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Mage hoods and black hoods are weightless. Mage hoods can be found on conjurer bosses and are relatively common to come across, but black hoods are rare with only a few in existence. Wrist irons are also weightless, but you might want to keep a pair for yourself if you're playing a pure mage character. Legoless 23:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Try here. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 23:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Daggerfall: Where are the save files?

Hello. I'm not sure if I'm adding this correctly - so if I am doing something wrong, please forgive me and let me know how to correct it.

Anyway I started playing Daggerfall again today after downloading the version used for later vs. of windows (I have windows 7). I have found this site to be a valuable resource.

One thing I haven't found, however is how to find the saved files.

I wanted to keep a save file of every major step and 6 simply is not enough. I vaguely recall when I first played I was able to "move" the files somewhere else and move them back (I played more then one character so I'd move whatever character set I was playing into the appropriate area so I could access thosue files in game. )

Well now when I go into the daggerfall folder I see 6 folders labeled from SAVE0 to SAVE5. So I thought AH HA! but... there is nothing in them. yet I can load saved games and the fixsave program can bring them up.

So.... where are they? I have "show hidden files" checked in the windows option. I also tried moving the corresponding folder of a "saved file" somewhere else with the idea that there would be no more point to that file... but nope it still showed, telling me that the saved file info is not in the "Save#" folders.

Can anyone tell me how to find the files? (I even searched on the name I used to save.)

Thanks much.

- Sharon 72.55.216.6 08:29, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

5th anniversary edition

whats in it? is it out yet? P90 user 02:33, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

It is not out yet, though someone else here may be able to tell you what's in it; if there has been any news or hints to the contents of the Fifth Anniversary Edition, I missed it.--Kalis Agea^{Yes? Contrib E-mail} 02:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

It just looks like another collector's edition. It contains the "making of" DVD, two map posters (Cyrodiil and the Shivering Isles), $10 coupon for Skyrim and the GotY edition of the game. It also comes in a nice steelback case. PS3 players seem to be getting excited over it, as it looks like it comes with trophies and PSN connectibility (for the DLCs, I assume). But no news on anything unique for PC and 360 players has been announced. You can see the cover here. Legoless 10:40, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Vaermina Shrine Quest

Hi,

I'm trying to start the Vaermina shrine quest, and the shrine will not acknowledge my offering (1 black soul gem). Once I realized the task was retrieving the Orb from Arkved, I knew I might have some trouble. It turns out, much much earlier in the game I had already went through Arkved's tower. I went through it again... for kicks, but he's gone now, and so is the orb. I no longer have the orb in my possession, though I'm in the process of trying to figure out what I did with it. In fact, I don't recall ever taking it the first time I went through the tower. I can't remember if I killed Akrved, but I'm thinking I may have... since he's no longer in the bed. Anyway, I think I screwed myself out of being able to complete this quest, and the Deadric shrine quest line. I'm hoping someone tells me otherwise. Any advice?

Thanks, Joe 6/13/2011 — Unsigned comment by 12.111.225.77 (talk) at 14:52 on 13 June 2011

You can't go through the tower without starting the quest. You also can't drop the orb, as it's a quest item. If you used console commands to do these things it could have unknown consequences. You could try forcing the quest to start/finish. Also, Arkved is unimportant, so it doesn't matter if he's disappeared. --Legoless 01:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I should have mentioned this is on Xbox 360. Not sure if it makes a difference. Odd, I must have started the Vaermina quest, but the orb is not in the tower or my possession... and I never got the Skull of Corruption. I know the quest never completed because it won't allow me to start the Hermaeus Mora quest. 6/17/2011 — Unsigned comment by 99.39.137.44 (talk) at 21:25 on 17 June 2011

Look through your journal for it. --Legoless 20:29, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Check your completed quest list and your current quest list, then you will know whether you have done it or not. You cannot enter Arkved's tower without starting the quest and the orb cannot be dropped, so you must hvae done it previously. --Manic 20:31, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I think I just have been playing for too long. I did complete it. I realized now why I couldn't start the final quest in this line. I never went back to Clavicus Vile to complete that quest. I just planned to keep Umbra, but I didn't realize it would ask you if you wanted to return it... before completing the quest. Sorry for the run-around. — Unsigned comment by 99.39.137.44 (talk) at 21:37 on 17 June 2011

Morrowind (view on map) links

Not sure if this is the right place so please move it elsewhere, if appropriate.

Certain (view on map) links are causing warning dialogs regarding "google maps API keys" and "google maps API not compatible with this browser", this only happens if I'm not logged in - if I'm logged in then the links are all of the same form as the 3rd example below and work correctly. This happens on 2 different machines with different releases of Firefox.

• Aharasaplit Camp http://newcontent3.uesp.net/maps/mwmap/mwmap.shtml?centeron=Zallay%27s+Yurt
• Aidanat camp http://newcontent1.uesp.net/maps/mwmap/mwmap.shtml?centeron=Abassel%27s+Yurt
• Ashamanu Camp http://www.uesp.net/maps/mwmap/mwmap.shtml?centeron=Kausha%27s+Yurt
  

Screwball 12:52, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about the last one, but you're using the wrong URL for the other two - newcontent1.uesp instead of www.uesp - and that won't work. The other one works fine for me. rpeh •T•C•E• 13:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

You're missing the point, I think. I know the 1st 2 examples don't work - that is precisely why I'm reporting them as an error. Those links were grabbed directly from the specified pages - I'm not "using" anything, just clicking links on the site and getting errors. To repeat, if I'm not logged in and click the view map links I get errors (which should not be happening), the 1st 2 examples above are links which don't work, the 3rd one does. If I log in then all of the links are like the 3rd example and they work. They were copied directly from the links as presented by the site - I'm not making them up. I can send you a screenshot of the tooltip which appears if I hover the mouse over one of those links if you like.
Screwball 14:00, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

No I'm not missing the point. You reached the page using Google or something - I don't care what - and those links will never work with the maps. No, we're not going to change it because it's not necessary. When you log in it'll take you to the proper page and that's why the problem disappears. If you don't get any problems when you log in then just log in. rpeh •T•C•E• 14:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

No, I did not use google or something. I have been using the same bookmark to Oblivion:Oblivion for years, I take the Morrowind link from the left sidebar. I go to Places, then to the pages referenced above. I only mentioned the difference between logged in / not logged in as I thought it might help you fix a glaring problem, in fact I only noticed the difference because I logged in so I could report the problem in the first place. Clearly I should not have bothered. Screwball 15:04, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Then the problem is with your bookmark. However you get to newcontent3 or newcontent1 - that is the problem. Don't use those URLs and you won't get a problem. It's nothing to do with being logged in or not. It's not a glaring error in the site, it's a problem with your bookmark. rpeh •T•C•E• 16:24, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

In fact you can look here and here to see every page that links to newcontent1 and newcontent3. The only two that do so are this page and your sandbox. I can't see how it could be anything else other than your bookmark causing the problem. rpeh •T•C•E• 16:28, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I fail to see how it can be my bookmark. This is it, in full, unedited

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Oblivion
Explain to me please how that is wrong, on 2 different machines, with different browsers. If it was happening on only one I would have naturally assumed a bookmark error, a browser fault, a plugin fault - and investigated the problem and not reported it, but to have it wrong on 2 systems confirmed to me that there IS a problem. In fact, by stating "No, we're not going to change it because it's not necessary" and by suggesting I always log in, you have effectively admitted that there is something you could change and that there is a difference in the links (between logged in and not logged in) - it should not be up to site users to modify their browsing behaviour (which includes having an account and logging in to it), you should be saying "Oops, we'd better look into that"...
And bear in mind that it is not ALL of those "view on map" links which are wrong, just 'some' of them, as shown by the 3rd example above. The majority (of those I've visited recently) are correct, a few are not. That alone, to me, says there's a problem, especially as it is repeatable, on those few links, both within a browser session and across multiple sessions. And before you ask, yes my browser cache is cleared automatically on exit, which happens several times a day, and this has been occurring for several days now.

Allow me to rephrase the original question:-
Would you expect that 2 links, on 2 different pages, to the same content, would be the same?
On the Morrowind:Places page, the (map) links for all 14 of the Minor Ashlander Camps take me correctly to the google map. On the pages dedicated to those locations, the (view on map) links are correct for 10 of the 14 places, the 4 which are incorrect are:-
Morrowind:Aharasaplit_Camp, Morrowind:Aidanat_Camp, Morrowind:Mila-Nipal and Morrowind:Salit_Camp.
Screwball 11:12, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh this is turning out to be very interesting...
Those 2 search links you posted on the 17th? I followed those links on the same day and got exactly the results you described. I cannot recall if I was logged in or not at the time.
Today, however, I am very definitly logged in and I'm getting entirely different results. The 2nd search is returning 7 results (including the 2 which are expected), the 1st search is returning FIFTY! the vast majority of which are in the Oblivion namespace. Curiously, the 4 I noted above are not contained in either set of results - work that out if you can. Note that I am following your links - not navigating manually to that search page and performing the search myself.
I have screenshots of both results pages, I have also saved the pages locally. You are welcome to all of that if you want it. I really don't know what more I can do to convince you that there is a problem with this wiki and that, for me at least, it is consistent and repeatable.
Screwball 09:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I've no idea what your problem is, but I don't get any of the results you describe - and you're the only person who seems to have this problem. Logged in or logged out I get a working map. Frankly, if you're having trouble when logged out then use your account. As the saying goes, if you're having a problem doing things one way don't do that then. rpeh •T•C•E• 10:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I've no idea either. I come to the site, I click links. Some work, some don't. If I can't click links ("don't do that then" reference) then what is the point of coming to the site in the first place? You seem to think I'm doing something odd/strange/wierd and wonderful. I'm not. If those links are broken for me, they are potentially broken for others as well. Just because you can't see it happening doesn't mean that it is not happening, at all, ever, for anyone.
Anyway, I've now completed a little (personal) project which necessitated using those links, so I won't be needing to use them any more. You may, therefore, consider the case closed, albeit unresolved.
Screwball 10:38, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

If it works when you're logged in, then log in. We're not getting reports of this from anyone else, so it's simplest to assume that the problem is to do with something to do with you. It could be that your ISP is caching pages or something like that. I have no idea. The point is that there's nothing we can do about it. rpeh •T•C•E• 10:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Notice those are all links with apostrophes in them, where the link above has the apostrophe replaced with its HTTP hex equivalent %27. I have noticed some funny things happen sometimes with that type of search link. --Brf 14:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Why aren't glitches working?

I was playing Oblivion after I installed the SI and KOTN expansions, and I finished the game once and wanted to restart so I made another character, I tried to do the Infinite Money glitch with Dorian, and then Kvatch, but neither of them worked, and I certainly don't want to do the Vampire Quest, so does installing Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine add a patch to the game? Wolfmanzack 19:15, 19 June 2011 (UTC)Wolfmanzack

I think Shivering Isles installs the latest patch. --Legoless 22:03, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Hock Joints

Beast Folk had hock joints in previous games, but I don't ever seem to find info on the Races pages about whether its a 'development difference' or a physical difference explained by cannon.

My first question... is Argonian and Kajiit anatomy different because developers didn't create a separate body type for beast folk in Oblivion, or is it different due to location in Tamriel?

My second question... will beast-folk (if any) in Skyrim have Hock joints or normal knees? --Skober 14:42, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

The lore explanation is that both Khajiit and Argonians have different forms, ranging from beast-like to almost human (additionally, in the Argonian's case, tree-like also comes into play). Khajiit form is decided by the moon cycles, while Argonians become more beastial/tree-like based on the amount of Hist sap they ingest at their naming ceremony. From a developer's point of view, I have no idea why they made the change in Oblivion. --Legoless 14:49, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Can't get Widow quest from Darius

I hope this is the way to ask a question. New here. I'm a level 103 player. I've finished the main quest, the Mage's guild, the Theive's guild, the Fighter's guild and am almost done with the Morag Tong (holding off to see if I can find all of the Sanguines...think I sold them to the Creeper and then he reset on me). I've just joined the Imperial Legion and the first thing he asked me about was Mehrun (his 3rd quest according to your site). I didn't think anything about it and went on to the next quest...yes, I saved. I have Lugrub's axe stashed at the Creeper's place and have stolen the land deed, brought them both to Darius, dressed appropiately, and he still won't ask me about the Widow. I didn't save this time. I can't do Talos Cult until he does. What do I do now? Did my ignorance mess up this quest line?

Can't get Widow quest

Sorry I forgot to signKomuko 20:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)Komuko 4:37 PM July 3, 2011

Imperial City Statues

I've exhausted my abilities searching the pages, forums, and whatnot, but still have not found the answer to my question which follows...

Who are the two male statues in the Market District? I think the two in Arena District are Morihaus and Alessia, but have no input to guess who the Market-Place Statues are (maybe Remans?). --Skober 09:55, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

According to the Oblivion Official Game Guide, the western one is "Uriel Septim III: Commemorating Uriel III's victory in the War of the Red Diamond", and the southeastern one is "Pelagius IV: Son of Tiber Septim".

This is why I don't trust the official guide for this kind of thing - Uriel III lost the War of the Red Diamond, and Pelagius IV was the grandson of Uriel Septim V, not Tiber's son. So take the answers with a pinch of salt. rpeh •T•C•E• 10:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and the same source says you're right about the two statues in the Arena District. Alessia seems possible, but Morihaus is usually referred to as a bull, so I'm not convinced about that one. We've included those names on our page though. rpeh •T•C•E• 10:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Quest: Work is Never Done

Hello, this is my first post as a new member but I had a quick question for anyone who could help. I am playing the Shivering Isles expansion right now and their is a quest in Bliss where I need to talk to a man by the name of "Tove the Unrestful". I read the guide on this site as to where I might find him. Your guide states that he is usually at his home or a local inn, and gives detailed hours about where to find him. To get to the point I have been searching for this man for 3 in game days. He never comes home, he isn't at the inn and he is never spotted walking around. I have searched everywhere even going as far as breaking in his house only to find him never where he is supposed to be. Is this a known glitch and how could I best remedy this? Thank you. Corvain 19:37, 23 July 2011 (UTC) Corvain

He is a bit bugged, bit you should be able to find him. Worst case scenario, he died for some reason (there are ways for Bliss residents to die), but if you follow his daily schedule as documented here you will find him. Possible problems includes him being stuck on the bridge between Books of Bliss and Orinthal's house - and, as mentioned, him being killed because of Big Head's bug, where all citizens will participate and accidentally kill each other. If that's the case, you are in big trouble! --Krusty 20:11, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Oblivion: Dying in the sun like a vampire after joining the Dark Brotherhood

Hello I currently finished the main quest limne of Oblivion and wanted to join the Dark Brotherhood. After I joined I now am not able to get outside between 6am and 8pm because it seems like I'm having the vampire disease eventhough I didn't meet a vampire beside Vicente Valtieri and the count of Skingrad.

Is there any way to cure this? The wiki says that I can cure vampisism by using:

   Set PCVampire to 0
   Set vampire.hasdisease to 0

But I don'T know how to use this and/or they don't work because if I enter "Set PCVampire 0" it doesn't work. Also it doesn't work with the following: "PCVampire 0" "player.PCVampire 0" "vampire.hasdisease 0" "player.vampire.hasdisease 0"

Thanks for any answers.. 178.203.118.9 17:40, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Did you buy the gauntlets from M'raaj-Dar, the Khajiit inside the Dark Brotherhood sanctuary, they are called the Hands of Midnight, and they give you sun damage 30 points of on self. Did that help? Kitkat1749 18:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

pc or console?

does anyone have a game on both pc and console in from atleast this year? how much difference is there between graphics? i dunno whether to get it on pc or console pc is so expensive. wats the best video card and motherboard for gaming out there? P90 user 09:44, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

    Hi, the graphics are pretty much the same on both. If you have lots of mods
    on your computer, it will have a lower FPS, however, the pc has graphic mods
    to improve the graphics, making them better than the console. I do not know 
    which graphics card and motherboard are the best. Sorry.
     Supermoopful 05:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Dark Brotherhood Quest Bug

i'm on the quest next of kin. i've killed everyone except for caelia draconis. every time i kill her, my game will freeze when i try to save or autosave. I have the game for xbox so I can't use console commands. Does anyone know what i can do??? Thank you

Wiki Random Page button is buggy

Hey guys, when I press the random page article it goes to the same page over and over again. I've only got it to change once and it stayed stuck at that one too. Is this just me or are others having problems with it? Possible fix? Thanks. 76.182.214.225 04:25, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

It's not broken, you're just getting the cached version. Create an account and you should get a different article. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 04:39, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

So I will have 2 accounts then? One for the forums and one for the Wiki? 76.182.214.225 04:48, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

would clearing the cache on the page fix this problem? (From Fear to Eternity- Eddie The Head 04:50, 10 September 2011 (UTC))

Yeah, you can't use your forum account for this. I don't know how to clear the random page's cache. As I said, this is a rather simple fix. Just create an account, while your logged in the random page function should work. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 04:52, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

i meant the page that it takes you to? (From Fear to Eternity- Eddie The Head 04:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC))

I understand but shouldn't this feature work for everyone that comes to the site? Including people who don't care to make an account? 76.182.214.225 04:57, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

After doing some digging I got an answer on this. The reason that we cache the random page for anons is because it's more draining on the server to have it available for all users. Create an account, it's the simplest solution to this issue. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 05:06, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Text Color

Is there a chart somewhere for how I can properly change the colors of my text? Like my signature for example? Please and thank you. Output Influx 05:14, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

well take a look at my signature for a example: <font color="SeaBlue">From Fear to Eternity-</font> [[User:Eddie the head|<font color="Blue">Eddie The Head</font>]] the " are important but im not sure if theres a chart for it (From Fear to Eternity- Eddie The Head 05:18, 10 September 2011 (UTC))

Yeah, I see the tags I mean more in the way like 'Sea blue'. What different shades and colors can I use. Output Influx 05:39, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

im not too sure what different shades there are, just experiment with it on a page or something (using show preview) thats how i did it. (From Fear to Eternity- Eddie The Head 05:43, 10 September 2011 (UTC))

Hmm... It seems that this Wiki doesn't support certain colors. It would be really helpful if we could get someone in here to direct me to the color catalog it uses... Output Influx 06:11, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

It's not about the wiki, it's about your browser. This list shows the names supported by all browsers. rpeh •T•C•E• 07:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

There is also a list available here that work, well I have been told they do. But I admit I have not tried them all.-- Thanks --KizC ^{·•· Talk ·•· Contribs ·•· Mail ·•·} 13:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

How To Get Rid Of Permanent Enchantment Effect (From Non-Quest Item)

I'm hoping someone can help me with a problem I've been having with my Oblivion character. I have a pair of Ebony Gauntlets of the Hunter which have somehow managed to give me a permanent enchantment of Detect Life at a range of 85 feet. This happened after I activated one of the Hestra Rune Stones that give Bound Gauntlets while wearing the Gauntlets of the Hunter. Since doing this I can no longer equip the gauntlets (I get an error message saying I can no longer equip the item if I try to wear them) but the enchantment is still there listed under active effects and I just can't get rid of it.

I thought I could remove it using the console command player.dispel but I can't find the magic ID code for the detect life 85 feet enchantment. All the codes in the detect life spell listings on the wiki are for different ranges (I have tried using all of them anyway, but in vain).

If anyone could offer some advice I would be really grateful! Lhalkon 14:05, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

The effects from enchantments are different from those for spells. Each enchanted item has it's own "spell" that tells the game what effects it has. For example, the gauntlets you mention has an enchantment of EnAppDetectLifeGreater. That enchantment has a ID of 47807. Your method would be player.dispel 47807. I am not sure if this will work, but that's only because I have not used dispel and am unsure of how it works. You could also try player.removespell 47807. I have used this a lot in scripting, but again Idon't know how it will work with enchantments. Also, I am not sure if this will allow you to wear the items again, but I think it will... Maybe you should post back with your results. :p --DKong27 ^{Tk Ctr Em} 18:09, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Brilliant, it worked like a charm! I used player.dispel 47807 and the effect disappeared, also I could re-equip the gauntlets (although I think I might leave them off for a while as I'm pretty sick of the detect life spell now!) Thanks, it's much better playing the game without that constant purple mist around everyone! Lhalkon 20:23, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I'll have to remember that dispel command. I guess I've never had to use it in my modding or regular gameplay. I know what you mean about the Detect Life though. I've tried a couple mods, but I've never found one that I think really makes it look great. Now that I think about it, it almost always gets worse when up close. The purple fog is annoying when it's in your face... I was using one mod for a while that changed it to an outline of the actor mesh, which was very visually appealing at range, and generally overall for creatures. But for NPCs, the mouth and eye sections of the model was outlined very prominently at close range. Maybe I'll try my hand at a mod sometime. :p --DKong27 ^{Tk Ctr Em} 23:15, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

The INFO section in the Morrowind ESM file

Hi

The INFO section is documented as having the following sub record

     SCVR = String for the function/variable choice (5+ bytes)
     
     byte  Index      
     '0' to '5'
     
     byte  Type
     '0' = Nothing?
     '1' = Function
     '2' = Global
     '3' = Local
     '4' = Journal
     '5' = Item
     '6' = Dead
     '7' = Not ID
     '8' = Not Faction
     '9' = Not Class
     'A' = Not Race
     'B' = Not Cell
     'C' = Not Local
     
     short Function (2-byte string, '00' to '71')
     
     'sX' = Global/Local/Not Local types
     'JX' = Journal type
     'IX' = Item Type
     'DX' = Dead Type
     'XX' = Not ID Type
     'FX' = Not Faction
     'CX' = Not Class
     'RX' = Not Race
     'LX' = Not Cell
     
     byte CompareOp
     
     '0' = '='
     '1' = '!='
     '2' = '<'
     '3' = '<='
     '4' = '>'
     '5' = '>='

But what I am seeing in the file for these is (two examples)

     [Index] 48 [Type] 49 [Function] 39 [Compare Op] 48
     [Index] 52 [Type] 52 [Function] JX [Compare Op] 52 

The index doesn't seem to 0-5, its always 2 digits from what I see, so it type and compareOp. Do you know how to interpret these?

The function can be numeric as well as textual like JX, what do the numerics numbers mean?

Thanks

87.194.206.183 21:48, 19 October 2011 (UTC)Elf

Be careful to distinguish the character '0' from the number 0. In ASCII the character '0' is decimal 48 (0x30). For the function codes '00' to '71' see the bottom of the TES3 File Format document. If you need more or specific advice (programming, hex editing, etc...) just let us know -- Daveh 22:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

So what does index=48 mean and type=49 and compareOp=48? I'm a bit confused (Is the first character whats defined in the list and the second character something else?). I understand the Function list now, thanks for that I didn't see the section below it. 87.194.206.183 06:36, 20 October 2011 (UTC)Elf

midas magic mod info removal

i miss the info. good or bad, some info is better than none. will someone be working on getting this back? — Unsigned comment by Morbius (talk • contribs) at 21:21 on 9 November 2011 (UTC)

The problem with the pages were that they were only half finished, and no one wanted to finish them. If someone wanted to finish them, it's simple enough to remake them in a sandbox for them. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 21:21, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Leveled Nightingale items

With no specification as to which character levels yield which version of items, I am hesitant to continue my thieves guild career...

Any insight as to which level unlocks the best quality items?

I am currently at level 42 --Skober 12:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: Just finished "Hard Answers" not realizing I would receive a leveled item... @ level 42, I received the second highest quality, to my dismay. I recommend notation on relevant pages mentioning a reference of character level vs. item quality.--Skober 12:31, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Is sanguine rose dremora same level as spell-conjured dremora?

Is a dremora that's summoned with the sanguine rose the same level as a spell-conjured dremora? (I'm on a PS3, so cannot check with the console.) 174.17.124.72 19:57, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Does elemental potency enhance atronachs summoned through staffs?

Just curious whether it's worth spending the point right now. Would make a good addition to the wiki explanation for elemental potency, too. 174.17.124.72 19:58, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

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