Online talk:Orzorga's Kitchen (settlement)

Deletion

Is there any merit in this page's existence? From what I can tell, it describes the Morkuldin Forge except places it under a different name for no conceivable reason. The page itself specifies that in-game it is indistinguishable from anything, and I fail to see how the location isn't part of the Morkuldin Forge. At the very least it's more a merchant location than a conventional location. Fullerton ﴾_talk﴿ 08:13, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Morkuldin Forge appears at the bottom of the cliffs. These ruins appear at the top and are entirely separate. The Morkuldin Forge map marker might be placed on top of this location, but you can't even reach the Morkuldin Forge entrance from here. —Legoless (talk) 08:22, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I take your point that it's not the Morkuldin Forge. However, the quality of not being a different location is not a criterion for being a location in and of itself; that should be defined by a unique name or prior appearance. As far as I can tell this is a contrived page describing the ruins above the Morkuldin Forge that could just as easily be wrapped into the page of the only location of this name, Orzorga's Kitchen. I do not see that there is any criterion to label this as its own distinct location. Fullerton ﴾_talk﴿ 08:58, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

That's a fair argument, but a different point. The reason for the existence of this page is because this unnamed settlement does not just include Orzorga's Kitchen, it also includes two additional buildings named "Old Tower". Better to make that distinction, I think, than pretend the inn is the only interior location present at this settlement. —Legoless (talk) 09:53, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

And yet in-game there is no settlement. The inn exists, and its surroundings exist, but the designation of the existence of Orzorga's Kitchen as a settlement is purely arbitrary in selection. It is not named as such in-game, and surely the old towers can be described anywhere else. I understand that the information has to go somewhere; and that it doesn't necessarily fit on the pages for the inn and for the Morkuldin Forge, yet it's not quite required that it needs to be listed on a page created purely arbitrarily—it could just as easily be listed on the inn's page, on the Forge's page, on their own pages, or in fact in any page with a name taken from gameplay and in-game information. I understand that this concern may seem small in nature and that I am being obtuse; yet this discussion revolves around an arbitrarily selected pagename. Fullerton ﴾_talk﴿ 11:14, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm fine with a better suggestion for the article name, if you can think of one. But like you said, we need to document the Old Towers (and the currently unlisted exterior NPCs/vendors) somewhere. I'm simply opposed to associating this location with the Forge in any way, since the two are very much separate, despite what one might at first expect when looking at the map marker. —Legoless (talk) 11:41, 9 June 2018 (UTC)