Lore talk:A Dance in Fire

I see that all four chapters are combined into one article. In the game it is four separate books. IMHO this article should be split into four parts like Lore:Brief History of the Empire, Part 1 or Lore:The Real Barenziah, Part I. User MXI 09:43, 12 May 2006 (EDT)

I actually prefer the summarised version with all volumes on one page. It saves space in the indexes and means you can read through the entire text in the same article. Lists of books in each game can list the separate volumes, but for storing the text, it seems sensible to use one large summarised page. Other opinions welcome, as it would be good to have consensus. --Actreal 23:58, 24 June 2006 (EDT)

Might make sense to do that, particularly with some books whose references may be split into multiple locations, as I just discovered with "The Argonian Account", 2 volumes of which are skill books, and 2 of which aren't, so the list I was going from on Books has them all seperated. Only problem is the way the links to these books are right now, I'm not sure how to go about making all of "The Argonian Account" books link to the same place, other than maybe just placing redirects for each volume other than the 1st? On the other hand, there's the possibility that doing the books this way could result in some VERY long pages. (Think 36 Lessons of Vivec from Morrowind.) Even some shorter ones like "The Real Barenziah" or "The Wolf Queen" could end up with a rather large chunk of text on the page. But if that's not going to bother anyone, I say go for it. --TheRealLurlock 00:23, 25 June 2006 (EDT)

I just encountered the same issue with the links from Oblivion:Books to this article. I've gone with redirects for all volumes to a main text page (with no volume number in the title). --Actreal 00:29, 25 June 2006 (EDT)

I'm starting to swing the other way on this one. Given the difficulty of redirecting the links properly, it might be better to just split the volumes up onto seperate pages. (It doesn't really take that much more room on the server to do that, does it?) One thing that might make sense is for each multi-volume book page to have a "next chapter" and "previous chapter" as applicable to link to the adjacent volumes, so you can read through them quickly without having to go back and find the link. But if I click on "A Dance in Fire, v 4", I shouldn't have to scroll all the way down through half the book to find where book 4 starts. If we can get the link to actually jump right to the 4th chapter, fine. But so far, I haven't been able to get that to work. -- TheRealLurlock 22:24, 26 June 2006 (EDT)

ALL books in Lore should definitely have all volumes on one page. --Yal 10:32, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

You realize you're responding to a 6-year old conversation about an issue that's already been resolved, right? --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 12:40, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Unthrappa or Undrape

We can see that Waughin Jarth mentions two terms for what I believe is the same title. "Undrape" is first used by Jurus:
"The Silvenar asked that we stay behind as Imperial representatives!" yelled Liodes Jurus. "In case there's a need for more contracts and negotiations! He's appointed us Undrape, some sort of special honor for foreigners at court!..."

And "Unthrappa" is first mentioned by Lord Vanech:
"From our client, the Silvenar," beamed his lordship. "It's some kind of local delicacy they call Unthrappa."

We know that Jurus is lacking in his penmanship and spelling skills. So are these terms synonyms or is that a mispronunciation on his part? It could also possibly be a mistake by Waughin Jarth (Though it is unlikely).
--Thefakewhitefang (talk) 20:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Unthrappa is a food item and completely unrelated to the title of Undrape.

"Scotti went to take a slice, but then he saw something imbedded deep in the dried and rendered roast."

"Where did this come from?" Scotti stammered.

"From our client, the Silvenar," beamed his lordship. "It's some kind of local delicacy they call Unthrappa."

It's pretty clear that Unthrappa is food. Jeancey (talk) 20:32, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Wasn't the twist at the end the realisation of Scotti that they killed Jurus and Basth? I am pretty sure about it. It's also framed as a reveal:

"Where did this come from?" Scotti stammered.

"From our client, the Silvenar," beamed his lordship. "It's some kind of local delicacy they call Unthrappa."

That's the moment Scotti realised what he was eating. It's also mentioned quite directly in the follow-up book The Argonian Account:

...For this, he had become the darling of the managers and the clerks, spending his days recounting his adventures, more or less faithfully... although he did omit the ending of the tale, since many of them had partaken in the celebratory Unthrappa roast provided by the Silenstri. Informing one's listeners that they've gorged on human flesh improves very few stories of any good taste.

--Thefakewhitefang (talk) 03:30, 27 January 2024 (UTC)